12/9

First off I’d like to apologize for such a late posting I have been jammed with homework and studying but figured I should try to get this in before class. I feel as though Kenneth Goldsmith’s ideas about uncreative writing are ridiculous. I really don’t understand even after reading this why it is exactly someone would want to create something so bland. In opposition to what he’s talking about in making an uncreative piece I think that actually takes a fair amount of creativity. Almost everyone is born with in some way, shape or form of creativity and to hold back from using that and creating a piece in itself I guess is a form of creativity. All I truly see of this is a way to create pieces without any sort of confrontation over it, in itself lacks emotion and is more academic. However, I feel like no matter what style of writing you do whether these “uncreative” or creative pieces you are still going to get critics of the work so in that case it doesn’t work.

Uncreative Writing

After reading the previous post, I tend to agree with what Ramsey was saying. It's hard for me to imagine myself "uncreatively" writing something. I can see how one could plan everything out before and write in a mechanized way. but I still feel as if there would be some sort of creative aspect to what their doing. Human beings are not robots. Even if we try to mimic a robot in our writing and cut out all of the subjectivity as possible, there is still a subconscious presence in whatever it is that we are writing. While I think the ideas of uncreative writing make sense in striving to meet that goal of eliminating "the arbitrary, the capricious, and the subjective", I do not feel as if it could ever completely eradicate some presence of the human element.

12/9

I disagree with Goldsmith's ideas about uncreative writing. I believe that all writing involves some element of creativity. As he states, writing involves a plan. The author decides which direction the text will go which ultimately decides how the text will develop. The author picks the structure and arrangement of the text. Even if the material is simplistic, the arrangement still allows the artist to demonstrate some creativity throughout the writing process.

12/9

Kenneth Goldsmith's article on Uncreative Writing is interesting to say the least. His idea of uncreative writing is basically what we have been discussing the past couple weeks, but instead of actual technology making the art, your mind becomes the machine. It is almost like the automatic writing exercise that we preformed, except for the fact that you plan your writing out before hand. For me it is a very helpful way in which a writer can be free from all conventions and just let ideas flow out of you. It is almost a subconscious form of writing.

12/9

Kenneth Goldsmith’s article talks about how he views his personal writing style as being uncreative. What he means when he says this is that his writing style is planned and that the idea or concept is the central idea behind the work. He explains how this writing style is typically emotionally involved and intuitive. I thought it was interesting when he said that this style of writing “is usually free from the dependence on the skill of the writer as a craftsman.” This gives the reader the idea that they would be able to complete “uncreative” writing pieces as well as the idea that the reader is able to easily comprehend the meaning behind the work.

In Soliloquy, I thought that it was somewhat interesting to read the quips and phrases that the author said. Reading it sounds like listening in on a telephone conversation. This makes the piece feel invasive of the author’s personal space and privacy. Also, looking at it as one large piece of text as a PDF is overwhelming, but it helps to convey the author’s point about “uncreative” writing.

12/9

I just want to start odd my sayin the download took 3 seconds.

The piece that I read was about uncreative writing. I have never heard of such a thing before.
he says "Uncreative writing is not necessarily logical. The logic of a piece or series of pieces is a device that is used at times, only to be ruined." it is crazy to me how he goes on and on about what uncreative writing is. it take a while to actually see what he is talking about and I think he did that on purpose. No i didnt read the whole thing because it was extremely long, but i feel like he did everything in his power to give us the best visual of what uncreative writing is before we actually see it for ourselves. He is very precise in everything he is saying to make sure he didnt skip a beat of any kind.

12/9 Response

In regards to "Sentences on Conceptual Writing" I was unsure what to think about the uncreative idea but as I was reading the author put a lot of emphasis on the idea of the writing rather than the style. I thought that the idea was where the creativity was, but what made it uncreative could perhaps be that it was just simply thought of beforehand. The author says, "uncreative writing is made to engage the mind of the reader rather than her ear or emotions". I thought that perhaps why anybody would want to create an uncreative literature would be for the idea that comes along with it and to get the reader intellectually involved with the text perhaps. For the second style of writing my group had to read "Gone With the Wind" and I did not enjoy this reading because although the simplicity of it I definitely think this style of writing would be hard to write because it is all written in slang and I know that I was not taught to write exactly how you speak so I definitely thought that it was an interesting piece as well.