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12/14

The poem descriptions that I viewed all seem to touch on current social and political issues. The authors seem to have a strong voice. They strive to reach a larger audience. From the description alone, the audience can sense that the author wants to raise awareness about controversial issues by using a bold opinion. They give off the impression that they are not afraid of offending their audience in the process of getting their ideas out.

12/14

While reading some of the poems from Goldsmith, I noticed they had a connection to one another. It seemed to me that they each hold a deeper meaning than what is presented, which could come across very differently for each person who reads them. The uncreative aspect of the poems is a little more difficult for me to grasp. I found the poems to be a bit easier to read and find meaning in than some of the previous ones we have read. Maybe that is where the uncreativeness aspect is put forth. Because it isn't so terribly confusing, does that make it uncreative? Goldsmith seems to be a complex person and it shows in his methods and ways of viewing art.

Heretical texts, last class

Thoughts as I read:
Last one - American?
Not just politics, but human rights/activism/equality
Seem to point out fallacies of people as well as the humanness of people
Ironically, a bit of nationalism as well as criticism
"Town" by Kate Schapira is very interesting. All of these texts seems to focus on the idea of places, whether it be entire countries or one small town that doesn't actually exist. How do people live here? What are we going to do about problems we face here? How do we work here? etc. but also, travel, so handling oneself in other places.

These are different from uncreative poetry because they focus on people (not that the uncreative can't focus on people - the important part, to me, seemed to be the analysis of creation rather than the outcome, whereas the outcome in these is clearly important as per the people they are about). They tackle important political concepts and behaviors with poetry that flows more normally, almost (like "regular" vs. avant-garde poetry), rather than focusing entirely on the process and having a more choppy outcome. Like traditional poetry (regardless of genre) there is meaning to be had in the words themselves, rather than just how they are placed or where they came from.

12/13

When reading the Heretical texts I found most of the poems to be alike. They were all extremely sad and actually made sense which surprised me a lot. I feel that all of these poems were uncreative just like goldsmith was talking about and what we talked about on thursday. I feel like this was done of purpose and all written about the hot topics of the world to have a point proven. That is all i really got out of them and i hope to find more in class.

12/14 Response

I took a look a few of the Heretical text descriptions and I found them to all be similar in content because the majority of them were associated with war, death or politics. I thought this was interesting because these are controversial topics to discuss through poems. Reading the end of the article poems I found the articles to be similar to the uncreative style because they seemed systematic and functional and in regards to a more creative style that is free form I thought these poems sounded more structured or thought out in terms of their ideas.

Poetry of the Revolution : Responses to the Avant-Garde: 12/9

I think the most blaring similarities between the heretical texts and the uncreative writing is that it is still primarily rooted in process. The first section at least appears to be a series of the flarf poems that we talked about and watched in class. It seems as though quotes are being mixed and matched to create poetry. However I do also see things that I would associate with spur-of-the-moment "creativity." The placement of some of the words seems random and done for purely visual reasons. I can't really say whether or not these things really had no reason because the exact process wasn't mapped out anywhere that I could find, but it doesn't seem planned out ahead of time. I think in a sense, they are showing stereotypical creativity in the way that they choose which words to leave out. From what I understand about Kenneth Goldsmith's uncreative writing, every step in the process should show dedication or professionalism to a degree. I think the main difference between the uncreative writing and the Heretical texts is that the writers of the Heretical texts at some point gave in to what they felt would be more pleasing to the ear and eye whereas the uncreative writing was wholly unconcerned with this.